Although new ‘full preterists’ are told or think that they are merely modifying their eschatological perspective, it soon becomes apparent that the radical alteration of their belief system actually begins with what happened in Genesis.
Since hyperpreterism claims a spiritual fulfillment of Jesus’ return, they claim Jesus was restoring what was lost in Genesis — namely, they will claim the effect of sin & the Fall was primarily if not completely a “covenantal” fall & therefore Jesus was merely restoring mankind to “covenantal” union with God. That is to say, hyperpreterism mainly advocates that the Fall was NOT about Adam dying physically, thus the restoration by Jesus is also NOT about physical restoration. This is why hyperpreterism MUST discount a physical resurrection of the believers.
The key text under examination is Gen 2:17, which is God’s admonition to Adam & Eve not to eat of a specific tree or they would die: Read the rest of this entry »
“And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” – Revelation 11:8
Revelation 20 makes it clear that the “second death” is the lake of fire. But an analysis of the literary structure of Revelation brings out an interesting factor.
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Brief summary: In Ep. 26, I am hosting an episode of the Theology Today podcast in which hyperpreterism was a major topic. The Theology Today podcast is now The Phil Naessens Show with topics ranging from tennis to theology and nearly anything in between.
Filed Under (dee dee's posts) by dee dee on 27-06-2009
I know you guys might get sick (pun intended) of hearing of my health issues, but the fact is that such is my cross to bear in this life. I am so grateful for the resurrection in light of this fact. I was very sick last week and had gotten better but suffered a relapse that is much worse than before. I just slept or fifteen hours straight, still in my work clothes from yesterday, and anyone who knows me know that sleeping that much is way out of character for me. I have shooting lightning pains going from my left inner ear into my brain so much that I jump when it happens. I am going to get some rest, and if it doesn’t get better, will go to the doctor next week, or if it gets worse, go to the ER this weekend. My throat is on fire, and I know longer have my tonsils so it can’t be tonsilitis, but that is what it feels like. Sorry to burden you guys. Also I am going through some pretty horrific personal trials that will remain private (nothing at all to do with anything online) that I need the strength to bear and remain true to my Christian witness and convictions. I think sickness helps to keep us humble and remember that we are here for a short while and then gone while God remains eternal.
I have some projects that I worked on last week that are done that I will get up this weekend as it requires very little effort on my part. And honestly, working on stuff I love helps me forget for a little while that I don’t feel well. Okay going to snuggle in bed with my Kindle and some Spanish lessons for a while. Soy fatal. ¿Y tu?
In the public realm, especially in politics we often see people trying to compartmentalize their lives. The height of this is perhaps when former U.S. President Bill Clinton tried to claim his in-office affair was a “private life” issue. This kind of thinking ought not be part of the Christian mindset. We are NOT to be one person in private & another in public. A person who has an extensive writing presence, when scrutinized for how they apply their stated principles to their own life, should not try to claim this compartmentalization as if you “got to know” them personally, you would see them differently. They should not attempt to claim they are one person in their writing & another in their so-called private/personal life.
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Updates listed after the jump
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Filed Under (dee dee's posts) by dee dee on 22-06-2009
There is something on the west coast of Florida that doesn’t agree with me. Every time I go over there, I come back sick unless I stay there for a few weeks before returning. I was in Panama City for a month, and everything was fine. But if I go just for a day or two for work and come back, I always end up with a throat/ear infection. This time is no exception. So that is why I haven’t done any further updates. I really can’t afford to miss time from work, so I am taking it easy with some other stuff, like the websites. Hopefully I will be back to decent strength soon.
An April 13,2009 — 54 minute audio discussion between Dr. Kenneth Gentry & Jerry Johnson (president of Nicenecouncil.com). Gentry explains that hyperpreterism is a reaction to the error of “Left Behind” dispensationalism. However, I believe Gentry aids hyperpreterism when he claims the AD70 event was a “metaphorical coming of Christ”. Rather, it was the Landowner taking vengeance on behalf of the Son & to what the wicked vinedressers had done (Matthew 21:33-45). To say Jesus came back in AD70 misses what Jesus was saying in those verses & as I said, only leads a person to either adopt hyperpreterism or point out that even so-called “partial-preterism” is just as heretical as hyperpreterism, since it would have Jesus coming 3 times.
Also, near the end of the audio, Gentry refers to Gary DeMar as a good source to compare “biblical preterism” (as he calls it) to hyperpreterism. Ummm… Dr. Gentry don’t you know DeMar is the wink-wink champion among the hyperpreterist movement & he will NOT call it a heresy. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop referring people to guys like DeMar.
link: http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonID=41309174594
It was mentioned in some prior comments on the blog how it would be very appropriate for churches to make express declarations against hyperpreterism. Here is one Church that has done so.
Statement on Neo-Hymenaeanism
[Appendix] — some other congregations that have specified objection to hyper-preterism
Please let us know if you have more links to churches or church structures that have made official statements regarding this heresy so that we may add it to this list.
* This is a secondary source & has pro-hyperpreterist overtones. I am still seeking first-hand sourcing.
From Mike Sullivan:
[context is one of Mike's many, and sometimes downright bizarre, open letters]
Again, your views and exegesis (avoiding the analogy of Scripture) make no sense to any other eschatological paradigm except the one you are constructing (without embracing Biblical Preterism–Gospel Eschatology).
Mike freely admits that this is foundational Gospel material.
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