The Intellectual Dishonesty of the “Covenant” Creationist
Filed Under (Paul's posts) by Paul on 21-11-2009
Tagged Under : Covenant Creationists, JL Vaughn, Paul's Post

For those who might be sitting on the fence regarding JL Vaughn’s agenda, I think this recent quote of his should remove any doubt.
Those who claim to be anti-evolutionists, are actually hyper-evolutionists. They have nothing against evolution. They are against long ages.
For example, YECs believe that dogs and foxes came from a common ancestor, the “dog-kind” on the ark..
Evolutionists believe that dogs and foxes came from a common ancestor, the “archaic canine” (which just means old dog-kind). At this level, YECs and evolutionists believe the same thing. Dogs and foxes “evolved” from an ancient dog-kind.
Neither group has fossil evidence for this claim. Both their views require an ancient “dog-kind,” therefore both hypothesize it. Both then assume it proven true by necessity.
Their primary disagreement with evolutionists is the timing.
Evolution vs. Creationism is nothing of the sort. It is slow evolution vs. hyper-fast evolution. They are all evolutionists
http://deathisdefeated.ning.com/profiles/blogs/who-are-they-evolutionists
The intellectual dishonesty of Vaughn is best manifested in his final 2 statements above where he states the only difference between one who avows the Biblical account of creation and the evolutionist is timing. However, for those who believe in the Biblical account the linking of the common understanding of “speciation” is fundamentally different than Darwinian evolution. Philip E. Johnson points out,
…everyone agrees that microevolution occurs, including creationists. Even creation-scientists concur, not because they “have tightened their act,” but because their doctrine has always been that God created basic kinds, or types, which subsequently diversified. The most famous example of creationist microevolution involves the descendents of Adam and Eve, who have disverisfed from a common ancestral pair to create all the diverse races of the human species. (Darwinism on Trial, Phillip E. Johnson, Intervarsity Press, pg 68)
Vaughn confuses the issues, suggesting the recognized “evolutionary” process that enables the diversity within a kind to develop is the same thing as Darwinian Evolution. Herman Bavinck points out what occurred with Darwin that changed the issues, something Vaughn isn’t honest about.
….in the eighteenth century evolution was torn from its basis in theism and creation and made serviceable to a pantheistic or materialistic system….step by step this evolutionary theory was so refashioned that it led to the descent of humanity from animal ancestry (Reformed Dogmatics, Herman Bavinck, Baker Academic, pg 513)
The recognition that God had created the kinds of animals with the inherent capability to adapt to their environment isn’t the issue. Heck breeders for years have known by breeding two types of the same kind of animal will produce new characteristics in their offspring. The issue with Darwinian Evolution was the suggestion new “kinds” of animals could be produced resulting in the “theory” through the evolutionary process man came from subhuman life. This is the concept JL Vaughn is attempting to insert although he isn’t openly telling his readers his intention. JL Vaughn’s entire motivation is to suggest Adam was not the progenitor of humanity, a position not held within Christianity, a position which originated in paganism and continues on today in modern science through their advocacy of materialistic humanism.




What a dishonest man. What creationists, like myself, believe is nothing like Darwinian evolution.
Reading Dr. Lee’s paper on the Old Covenant on TE, he points out that if there was no single “Adam” then there could have been no “Old Covenant of Law” for which God could hold Adam responsible. If there is no Covenant of Law, neither can there be a second single Adam bringing us a New Govenant of Grace, based upon His fulfilling the Old Covenant of Law!
Darwinian evolution, in denying that there was a single first Adam, denies that there is a single Second Adam, which would mean we are still lost in our Sin and sins! Gk
Exactly, while the proponents of “BCS” attempt to suggest the issue is simply the age of the earth, in truth it is an all out assault on a ton of N.T. theology. This is why when you inquiry with them asking pointed questions as to their explanation of the origin of humanity they clam up. As Michael Loomis demonstrated here at Preteristblog, they don’t want to admit their premise is designed around Adam descending from a subhuman life-form. They will blame their lack of answer on the one asking the question, but the reality is they realize truthfulness on their part about the base issue would likely lead to them being disdained by any fair minded Christian.
If Adam truly wasn’t the 1st of humanity how can Jesus Christ be the 1st of the new humanity? If entry into humanity isn’t through Adam, how can entry into the new humanity be limited through Jesus Christ? So much for “I am the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh but by me.”
JL Vaughn continues to demonstrate either his ignorance or arrogance,
You need to read,
“Creation According to the Scriptures, A Presuppositional Defense of Literal, Six-Day Creation” edited by P. Andrew Sandlin
Contributing authors, R.J. Rushdonny, Mark Ludwig, Cornelius Van Til, Kenneth L. Gentry, Frank Walker, Jr., Charles A. McIhenny, Dave Bush, John King, Thomas D. Schwartz, C. Paul Ferroni, Jerry Bergman Ph.D.
JL Vaughn, you think Cornelius Van Til was a dispensationalist?
ROFL!
[...] of “evolution” which had never before been suggested. This is the same point we documented here.. Dr. Bavinck in his work Reformed Dogmatics, “evolution”, (microevolution) was a commonly [...]
[...] they approach the subject matter of creation and the origins of humanity. We’ve documented here JL Vaughn has intentionally confused the issues on the debate over Darwinism in an effort to dumb [...]
[...] claim “evolution” before and after Darwin meant the same concept. We’ve documented here that this simply is not the case. Scargy has posted this excerpt from a book review in support [...]
[...] we’ve lodged against those who advocate “Beyond Creation Science”, (BCS) as documented here is that they are intellectually dishonest when representing the origins for the disparate views for [...]