Gary DeMar: An Irresponsible Leader
Filed Under (dee dee's posts, hyperpreterism) by dee dee on 11-10-2008
Tagged Under : Bray, Gary DeMar
Gary DeMar at American Vision is promoting on his homepage a work by hyperpreterist John Bray. Now at the time that Bray originally wrote this work he was orthodox. HOWEVER, he currently is not, and not just that, Bray ANNOUNCES that he is not in THAT book. Does DeMar warn his audience? Of course not. DeMar is aloof to such heresy. Not my job, he says.
On his site, DeMar claims of this book:
Representing a lifetime of Biblical research and years of garnering rare Bible commentaries from the greatest libraries around the world, Matthew 24 Fulfilled restores a Biblical interpretation of prophecy and gives a careful verse-by-verse exposition of the pivotal Chapter 24 of Matthew’s Gospel. Presenting the historical context and Biblical background to Christ’s prophecy, Rev. Bray gives a compelling case that Matthew 24 was indeed fulfilled in A.D. 70.
I have the book. How did I end up getting it? Because Mr. Bray lied in an advertisement for the book. I no longer have the advertisement which IIRC was in a Seventh Day Adventist magazine, but I really don’t care who believes me or not. The advertisement said the the arguments presented therein were fully orthodox. Like the typical slippery hyperpreterist, that is not precisely true.
Here is the addendum to the Second Edition:
I have come to the conclusion that the even which we have term ‘The Second Coming of Christ’ actually took place in the first century during that generation of people who lived in the time of Christ, according to the prophecy and predictions of both Jesus and the writers of the New Testament. All teaching, therefore, concerning the resurrection and judgment connected with the Second Coming of Christ must be studied and understood in light of this context.
Liar, liar, pants on fire. I spoke with Mr. Bray personally about eight years or so ago. He is singularly unconcerned with orthodoxy. I blame that in great part on the memberships that he brags about on the back of the Second Edition: Conference of Florida Baptist Evangelists, the Conference of Southern Baptist Evangelists, the Fellowship of Baptist World Ministries, and the National Association of Evangelicals IF THEY KNOW of his views. It is quite possible that they do not. Do you think he volunteered them? Likely not, though he did boast to me that the First Baptist Church of Lakeland (Southern Baptist) had no problem with his heresy. Shame.
Now my copy of the book is only 304 pages. The copy DeMar is peddling on unsuspecting sheep is 354 pages. Does anyone believe that the extra fifty pages are repentance of his heresy? If I wanted to burn some money, I would buy it.
Oh and despite DeMar’s glowing summary, unless the book has been completely revised, it is sloppily written and amateurish. There is some interesting information to be gleaned and sourced if the proper warnings are given as I do in the Bibliography to my commentary, It’s Not the End of the World:
Matthew 24 Fulfilled, John L. Bray, John L. Bray Ministry 1996. (caveat - author slipped into NeoHymenæan apostasy and has an addendum to the end of this book announcing such - however, this book is fully orthodox)
Gary provides no such warning, and HE NEVER DOES. If anyone has this edition I am very curious to know what the additional 50 pages comprise, and if the book no longer has the appearance of a sophomore’s term paper. Someone put a nicer cover on it than the completely cheesy sketch that was on their previously, but you can put a load of crap in a pretty box, and it is still crap.
I didn’t even find it worthy of including on my main site index.




Yo hyperpreterists, yeah you SG coven that can’t resist coming here, she’s baaaccckkk!!!!
Dee Dee — this is distressing but not surprising. DeMar has sold out. He needs the hyperpreterists — they buy most of his materials.
Michael Bennett went on an email vomit spree again today. I knew he was overdue. His first sentence was his nose shoved up DeMar’s backside.
Yeah, Puppett is predictable. Whenever Sammy starts mouthing off somewhere, Puppett gets brave & ventures out too.
Did you get the email too? I had blocked him before, but I must have deleted the block. I guess I will have to redo it though it gave me great pleasure to hit the “junk” button in Mail.app.
Bennett is losing his touch though. It was only in one colour. Tsk, tsk.
Nah, Puppett didn’t grace me with his cut & paste, lifted out of context, completely disconnected from Christianity, emails
James DeMar, Gary DeMar’s son just join a hyperpreterist community — see link as long as it is accessible, since the hyperpreterists are becoming more & more cultic in their ways, they now try to keep their membership a secret.
BTW, I fixed the images on the sidebar, I had accidentally deleted them before.
Both Gary and James followed me on twitter, and I followed them back. I however offered a greeting which was ignored, and now I am pretty uncomfortable with having them view my everyday chatter so conveniently. We all know how the hyperpreterists quote mine and make totally false connections (not that James is a hyperpreterist, but if he is part of their community of “faith,” he is NOT part of mine). The smear page about you shows what they do with any little thing said.
Now that I think about it, it is somewhat odd that I would be one of the first people that Gary would add on twitter. He never answers me by email, so I long since stopped. He banned me from his blog - and now he wants to be twitter friends? Nah, I am a softie, and I tried to be nice and welcoming, but I think I am going to block them.
I did my part in trying to open dialog with Gary; if he wants to be in my social circle, let him write me and ask.
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